Publicity ... and voting ...

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Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by skythorn » Fri Aug 26, 2011 2:47 pm

I dont know about you guys, but I am voting daily for this webcomic ... this and perhaps Goblins are the only ones I get vote angst about. CD deserves to be way higher than 45.

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Sites it's listed on are

1) http://www.thewebcomiclist.com/p/7521/crimson-dark
2) http://topwebcomics.com/vote/4752/default.aspx
3) http://www.webcomicz.com/webcomics/707/ ... -dark.html
4) http://belfrycomics.net/ent/7987
5) http://www.comixpedia.org/index.php?title=Crimson_Dark (Hmm - this page could do with some updating)
6) ... any others?

CD is not listed on :

1) http://webcomicssuper100list.gotop100.com/index1.html (not on their list)
2) http://comicrank.com (Could not find it)
3) http://webcomics.biz/ ditto
4) http://comicbasement.com/ ditto
5) http://familywebcomics.com/ ditto - and the option of ranking CD by it's maturity and suitability for minors

although, for all that, there seems to be little point in updating the lesser seen of the major webcomic ranking engines ....

Does anyone have any online reviews of Crimson Dark we can list here in this thread?
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Re: Voting - can we get better ranking?

Post by charles » Fri Aug 26, 2011 9:06 pm

Alright, so TopWebComics (TWC) at the very least, resets its numbers at the start of the month, so do we want to plan for a major voting spree in a few days time when the 1st of September hits?

Also, voting incentives help. The best voting incentive I can think of for Crimson Dark would actually be textless pages... which wouldn't mean much for the current page, but if you just start with the first page of Crimson Dark and work through the list then it should be enough.

Goblins does sneak peaks of work in progress, but I'm not sure if that would work as well for Crimson Dark's art style. Textless pages should always be an easy win though... or at least textless versions of the easiest pages to get access to, considering that some of the old ones might be archived somewhere.

Really though, We probably want to wait until David is getting ready to publish Crimson Dark before we really go on a spree to raise it's ranking.

If you're in other forums, the other thing you can do is include a link to Crimson Dark in your signature there. I usually have several of my favorite webcomics listed in forum signatures for most of the forums I frequent, including Crimson Dark.
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Re: Voting - can we get better ranking?

Post by Dhraakellian » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:37 am

How does the recent announcement affect this?

I personally wouldn't mind seeing Crimson Dark going into its retirement in/near the top 10 of TWC.

And as a long-time Supporter's Club member, I also (personally) wouldn't mind seeing the wallpapers and stories used as vote incentives, but I can't speak for other supporters.
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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by skythorn » Fri Sep 02, 2011 7:00 pm

Here's a review of CD by tangent ...

http://www.tangents.us/2011/08/29/crimson-dark-2/
Crimson Dark
August 29th, 2011 by Tangent

You might not think it, but the space opera and superhero genres both share a common failing: a tendency toward grandiose battle scenes that fails to hook the reader in. While it’s easy for movies to get away with combat scenes in both genres (assuming they keep them short), when space operas are presented in a graphic format, space battles can risk feeling empty and uninteresting, when read on an update-by-update format. For the most part, Crimson Dark has managed to juggle the ongoing space battle over the planet of Farhaven with pages focusing on the command staff of the liberating Cirin fleet (which in an odd twist has gone from the antagonists of the story to allies of the main cast), the space battle still threatens to overwhelm the story and leave readers adrift.

This is very likely one of the reason theatrical space operas often focus on fighter squadrons over larger ship battles. One such example can be found with the classic Star Wars trilogy, with the audience focusing on the more personal battles of individual fighter pilots while the heavy fighting between capital ships occurred in the background. This helps provide audiences with a more personal fight, while fleet actions remain more abstract in nature; as the audience has a personal connection with the fighter pilots, they get drawn in more easily than they would with the flashy but ultimately empty fleet battle raging around them.

Of course, given the course Crimson Dark has taken (with the protagonists not even in the fight yet), this is easier said than done. Hopefully, the crew of the Scarborough will be arriving soon, so that the story can shift to a more personal view. Because for all the beautiful renders of ships and depictions of starship combat, it’s the human element that truly drives space operas. I’m sure in hindsight, once the chapter is done and the battle is concluded, the pace of the battle will feel less lethargic. But at the moment, the human element is unfortunately scarce.

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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by charles » Sat Sep 03, 2011 6:45 pm

I think the latest page does well to have the human element come charging in and make a very personal attack on a ship they owe some payback to.

KEEP VOTING PEOPLE! WE'RE UP TO 38 ON TWC!

TWC VOTE LINK HERE: http://topwebcomics.com/vote/4752/default.aspx
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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by skythorn » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:38 pm

the comic is pretty persistently around the 40-35 mark. I think the best CD got to regularly was around the low 30's.

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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by Vile » Sat Dec 31, 2016 1:58 pm

Seems a bit quite around here! I feel there needs to be a bit more marketing of the comic to get more reader feedback. David mentioned he would be promoting CD more actively, but I guess he's got other stuff to be getting on with (such as producing the comic!). I see marketing as largely a fan responsibility when it comes to free webcomics. I still don't have many members on the G+ community, although quite a few of the people I invited on FB "liked" the CD FB page. I also try to promote the comic on RPG forums when the opportunity arises. I hope everyone can reach out to their internet contacts and spread the word that way, word of mouth is the best means of spreading awareness.

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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by David » Sat Dec 31, 2016 3:01 pm

I definitely plan on doing more soon, but I've been flat out producing content for this chapter. Now I'm just feeling a little burned out, so I'm trying to ease off for a few days and have something that vaguely resembles a "holiday". I'm aware that readership is currently stuck at about 10-15% of 2010 numbers, and I really want to see more of those old readers returning (plus new ones, of course).

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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by Vile » Mon Jan 02, 2017 5:58 pm

As the board owner, do you have the email addresses of the members? Maybe you could put a mailshot out there in case they haven't noticed that CD is back?

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Re: Publicity ... and voting ...

Post by Brock » Fri Apr 21, 2017 7:46 am

I agree. There are a few web comics I used to follow, until they took a hiatus. I rarely check to see if they have returned, and as a reader, I would be very happy to get an email notice when they start producing again.

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