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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by Knowles2 » Sat Sep 10, 2011 5:31 am

What is a reverse Minbari?.
An I so need to re-watch Babylon 5 again.
Look like the UTC sent only three ships for a reason, it was all they needed. :lol:

Cirins look like they heavily out match, and unless a substantial Merc fleet arrives or a fourth power decide to show there hand, the Cirin are gone, through she did say it was of little hope that the general would be that dumb to focus all of his fire power on a single vessel, but I got to wonder what her real strategy is if it was not to out flank and surround the fleet.

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Post by algesan » Sat Sep 10, 2011 12:43 pm

How many ships are there? Best guess is the Cirin have 10, with a Sparrow, two Daimyos, another cruiser sized ship, two of those tall & skinny ships and four small ships. Looking through the various pages I'm getting a count of about 4 Republic and 3 UTC, right? It also looks like at least five of the RD/UTC are "capital ships" compared to the 1 or 3 of the CA.

Either I'm miscounting badly (why no UTC escorts?) or Admiral Novosi doesn't have the "numbers advantage" she seems to have based her tactics on.

OTOH, there is still the Sparrow. With 95% of its combat capability still intact as the enemy starts trying to beat up on the escorts to prevent the englobing/envelopement. Perhaps thinking that she is crippled. Something makes me think that we are going to hear the good Admiral next say something along the lines of: "Now witness the firepower of this still fully armed and operational battleship!"

FYI, it is a very rare thing when taking out the escorts first are a bad idea. Sure, go for a golden BB hit on the big boy(s), but degrading the combined firepower by whacking the little ships first is good tactics.

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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by Dhraakellian » Sun Sep 11, 2011 2:57 pm

Knowles2 wrote:What is a reverse Minbari?.
A surrender from a position of strength, referring to the mysterious 11th-hour Minbari surrender in orbit around Earth.

The "reverse" refers to the fact that the UTC/Daranir forces are defending (albeit defending captured territory), while the Cirin underdogs are the attackers.

The idea is that, in place of [B5 plot point redacted] as the cause, recognition of Cirin military's bravery and dedication to their people would make the UTC commanders stand down.

The likelihood of this actually happening is, admittedly, rather low (unless I've miscaculated the narrative causality).
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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by charles » Mon Sep 12, 2011 9:10 am

Yeah, taking out the Cirin destroyers and frigates should be easy wins since they take the fire power off the battlefield. But the usual tactics for avoiding a pincer movement are to either punch through, back out of spread wider to avoid the encirclement. Now they're in it and the Cirin's Sparrow has proven more resiliant than expected, I guess they'll whittle down the smaller, easier-to-kill ships and reduce the firepower being pumped into their sides. With two double-barrel 50L guns and a couple of single barrel 30L cannons, those Cortes frigates also have fairly nasty firepower to weight ratio. I wonder how the Cirin's Gerushda Destroyer is doing. Maybe its the other one that the Controller noted had lost power rather than the Vorstok on the Port flank.

Also, Is that the Scarborough I can see next to Control's left shoulder on the monitors? I could be wrong but it also looks like the Daimyo above the UTC/Darani took a dive right through them to the bottom, so I wonder if its sitting underneath and getting ready for another pass... again I could be mistaken there.

So, is it time for another Cirin suicide run like the one in the Supporter's club? If the front of the Milowka is seriously that tough, they might even come off in front if they decide to smash it into the light carrier or one of those battleships. Could turn the tide of battle a bit.

Beyond some other grand plan, the only saves here are either the arrival of a significant sized Merc group, or these Allies they talked about before jumping into Farhaven orbit.
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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by Sarone » Mon Sep 12, 2011 5:50 pm

Damn. Sucks that the Glance and her crew bought it. I was partly looking forward to seeing them have a reunion.

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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by allikat » Mon Sep 12, 2011 6:00 pm

Sarone wrote:Damn. Sucks that the Glance and her crew bought it. I was partly looking forward to seeing them have a reunion.
Agreed, but you never know, there may be escape capsules. And they were warned that that turret would get them in trouble.

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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by charles » Tue Sep 13, 2011 8:51 am

Looks like the Cirins may have suffered a few more losses now. That first panel shows what appear to be two Cortes frigates getting blown away in the bottom right corner and the middle top. Not sure about the flank side Cortes. Its got some large explosions around the bridge but I think I see some shots trailing from it's lower stabaliser guns. Also not sure why it doesn't have it's lances lined up anymore either, but the stern of the Darani and UTC ships are likely to be much softer targets with the thrusters. That Daimyo which came from above has cruised around there and must be scoring some nice hits on the Vashnir and UTC Light Carrier from it's present location.

Not sure about the Gershuda. I suspect thats her under the two UTC battleships, exchanging fire with both of them... which is probably not a nice place to be, but if I didn't know any better, I'd say that its shooting at the Battleship's guns, which could really relieve the pain if it takes some of them out.
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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by skythorn » Wed Sep 14, 2011 5:39 pm

@alikat - I dont think it was *just* the turret that caused the problem ... :)

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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by charles » Fri Sep 16, 2011 5:23 pm

Control, take the Milowka to RAMMING SPEED!!!

Yeah, Probably time to turn all firepower towards the Darani ships if the UTC armour is really that strong. Or at least turn the bombers there, if they're useless against the UTC.

At least one of the Heavy cruisers AND a Vorstok destroyer appear to have made it around to the rear of the UTC and Darani ships, so they might be able to hit some softer points from there. But I'm still waiting for that last ditch suicide run that the Cirins are known for.

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Re: Official "Discuss the latest page" thread

Post by MadCrimson » Fri Sep 16, 2011 6:02 pm

C12P47:
Come on - using the same model including the same shots for the UTC fighter twice in panel 1 and 2? Not your stile, is it?
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